Lilux-info May 2005

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Re: [Lilux-info] [Fwd: Roberto Di Cosmo]

by Michel Maria-Sube

interessant en effet mais on pourrait rabattre les arguments de l'auteur: - lorsqu'il d�plore la longueur du texte: 448 articles, ca fait beaucoup en effet mais � peu pr�s la moiti� de ces articles concernent des aspects protocolaires sur le fonctionnement des institutions et peuvent �tre ignor�s; en plus je ne vois pas en quoi le texte est r�dig� de mani�re 'peu limpide', ca me parait au contraire parfaitement clair, rien � voir avec le trait� de Maastricht qui �tait r�dige dans un language de juristes compl�tement abscon - l'auteur compare avec les constitutions d'autres pays mais tu peux pas comparer avec la constitution des Etats-Unis en 1787, un pays ou les gens vivaient encore � l'age de pierre, il n'y avait encore aucune infrastructure, ni droit social etc... - l'auteur s'offusque de ce que le Parlement europeen n'a pas le droit de proposer des lois; � ma connaissance, dans tous les pays, le role d'un parlement est de voter les lois (ou les refuser) non de les proposer. D'ailleurs concernant le r�le du Parlement, il faut voir que cette Constitution lui donne plus de pouvoir qu'il n'en a actuellement. Et puis il faut un peu r�fl�chir � la suite en supposant qu'un pays d�cide de voter non (je pense � la France evidemment), qu'est ce qui pourrait se passer? voir le lien: http://www.lesechos.fr/journal20050524/lec1_idees/4269009.htm Enfin ceux qui votent non, en France du moins, iront rejoindre le camp de personnes comme LePen, Pasqua, deVilliers ou le Parti communiste...comme democrates on fait mieux...pour ma part je pense qu'il est preferable de voter oui que voter non...meme si cette constitution est loin de me satisfaire pleinement --- "Serge Marelli (LiLux)" <serge.marelli(a)lilux.lu> wrote: > Salut, > > Je fais suivre, int�ressant... > > > Serge > > > > Tiens, je d�couvre tardivement ce texte de > Roberto Di Cosmo (celui de > > Pi�ge dans le cyberespace) sur le trait� > constitutionnel : > > > > > http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~dicosmo/Opinions/ConstitutionEuropeenne.html > > > > L'exemple illustrant ses propos est celui des > brevets logiciels. > > _______________________________________________ > Lilux-info mailing list > Lilux-info(a)lilux.lu > http://lilux.lu/mailman/listinfo/lilux-info >

21 years

2600 meeting in Luxembourg this friday

by Pascal Steichen

Hi all, This is to announce that on friday 3th june 2005 the first 2600 meeting will take place in Luxembourg at the 'Art Scene' café, from 17h00 to 20h00. Everyone is welcome. ciao, pst -- Pascal Steichen pascal.steichen(a)lilux.lu Lilux ASBL http://www.lilux.lu/

21 years

May the [organic] force be with you !

by Brent Frère

http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html -- Brent Frère Private e-mail: Brent(a)BFrere.net Postal address: 5, rue de Mamer L-8280 Kehlen Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg European Union Mobile: +352-021/29.05.98 Fax: +352-26.30.05.96 Home: +352-307.341 URL: http://BFrere.net If you have problem with my digital signature, please install the appropriate authority certificate by browsing https://www.cacert.org/certs/root.crt.

21 years

IMPORTANT : 5 software patents events next week

by pst＠lilux.lu

FYI There are 5 software patents events next week: 1. FFII conference on 1st June: http://swpat.ffii.org/events/2005/bxl0601/ 2. Greens Conference "Software and Free Software" on 2nd June: http://www.greens-efa.org/en/agenda/detail.php?id=1726 3. Demonstration in Brussels on 2nd June (13h, Schuman): http://noepatents.eu.org/index.php/Demo_Against_Software_Patents 4. Webdemo and photodemo: http://noepatents.eu.org/ 5. EPP SME Hearing: http://wiki.ffii.org/EppSme050602En

21 years

OpenOffice.Org Banner

by Steve Clement

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey, In response to Msoft Benelux trying to push their MsOffice (!!!educational version) in Cactus and the like (also on wort.lu) we thought it might be time to get the world to know ooo.org. We put it on http://www.party.lu which is a Youth Portal and should reach quite a lot young people. I feel a bit angry that they put Educational versions or similar into the shops because the small business person won't know the difference and buy the product and therefor breach the EULA... bad! Enjoy and put it where you can... Steve C - -- ION Network Solutions Steve Clement Unix Sysadmin 209, rue des Romains L-8041 Bertrange Tel: +352 261 276-1 Fax: +352 261 276-9 estelle(a)ion.lu http://www.ion.lu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFClvKlMH8DIBsiCrgRAtx+AKCQSVpW+GshBXIlIs3Guqg18Dr0jQCfW+IZ yPZq3eTVrqcGR65yoL00Pak= =/Kry -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

21 years

GSM with embedded Linux, Motorola A768-E680-A780

by Yves Schintgen

Hye, Who has experiences with the following phones with embedded Linux OS: -> Motorola A768 -> Motorola E680 -> Motorola A780 I would like to buy one of these, but any experience, information, test report etc would be appreciated before buying. I have found a website in Germany where you can buy these phones for a quite affordable price: www.nowicom.com (cf Motorola) At my email questions concerning the A768, shipping, garanties, they responded: "Das Motorola Accompli 768 ist ein GSM Dual Band Gerät und Funktioniert in allen Europäischen Ländern. Es ist weiterhin ohne SIM Sperre, so dass Sie Ihre vorhandene Vertrags SIM Karte problemlos in Ihr Handset stecken können um los zu telefonieren. Die Versandkosten richten sich nach Ihrem Bezahlungswunsch und Ihrem Standort. Kredit Karte und Vorkasse(Überweißung) sind von den Versandkosten her gesehen am günstigsten. Wenn Sie eine Lieferung per Nachnahme wünschen, fällt eine Extra Gebühr an(Nicht wenig bei UPS). Sie haben ein 14 Tage Rückgaberecht bei nicht gefallen ( in diesem Fall wird Versand nicht mehr von uns Erstattet, sondern Ihnen zur Last gelegt!!!! ) und eine 2 Jahres Garantie, wo alle Schäden, die nicht durch Sie oder durch Dritte, nicht Grobfahrlässig oder durch Unwissen, etc. verursacht wurden, von uns übernommen werden. Sie schicken das kaputte Gerät zu uns und wir schicken es Kostenlos, Repariert zu Ihnen zurück. mit freundlichem Gruß (name removed by myself) Kundenservice nowicom GmbH" So, what do you think of it: Would it be ok to achieve one of these GSM's? I'm interested in a full featured GSM, but it must not be to complicated in use. Embedded Linux OS is of course a great argument as well! I have a Siemens SK65 at the moment, because I intended to use the BLACKBERRY BUILD IN FUNCTION for email, calendar etc, but no provider in Luxembourg is proposing Blackberry (they say it will only work with an enterprise server having installed the Blackberry software, but no provider got it to work properly (Tango-Helpline told me that!)), so I will give it away again (If anyone is interested, I will certainly make a very low price, just mail me). Greetings, -- Yves Schintgen <sevy(a)vo.lu>

21 years

[Fwd: Software Patents Directive: associations call to demonstrate all over Europe]

by Thierry Coutelier

* other languages linked below * ============================================================================ Software Patents Directive: associations call to demonstrate all over Europe ============================================================================ PRESS RELEASE -- [ Europe / economy / ICT ] Brussels, 22th May 2005. The coming vote of the European Parliament will be decisive in whether software patents are introduced in Europe. Members of the European Parliament are currently visited every day by an army of professional lobbyists to convince them that software patents are a good thing for small enterprises and independant developers. Patents on software will render development more risky, and will endanger every software programmer in Europe. It is important to raise your voice before it is too late. If the Parliament votes in favour of some amendments which allow software patent loopholes, they will endanger a majority of jobs of the European IT sector. AEL.be and Openstandaarden.be invites people who are concerned by the dangers of software patents to demonstrate on 2nd June in Brussels and in some other European cities, and as well on the Internet [1]. It is important to raise the awareness of Members of the European Parliament that giving a 20 year monopoly on software ideas is the worst thing they can do. Alexandre Dulaunoy comments: "Software and computer programs have always been subject to copyright law as they are a form of writing. Introducing software patents will be in conflict with well-established and proven author's rights. Software patents will allow patent monopolies to limit innovation within Europe's knowledge based economy. A free society is closely linked to the ability to create and build a free market. As we want to keep a free society, we are firmly opposed to software patents." Mark Vandenborre, from Openstandaarden mentions: "We hope for a mobilisation from all over Europe, so that the pro-patent lobby won't succeed in their disinformation campaign. The lobbying of big corporations in the European Parliament is very intensive, and they try to create an illusion that patents are good for small players [2]." One year ago, the 18th May 2004, Mr Bolkestein and the Irish presidency reached an agreement on a text which will legalise patents on every software idea. On the 7th March 2005, the Luxembourg presidency ignored their own rules of procedure to get the directive formally approved, against the will of 3 countries who wanted to reopen negotiations. The European Parliament will vote on the Directive on the 6th July. ================================================================= More infos [1] http://noepatents.eu.org [2] http://wiki.ffii.org/EictaSme050425En ================================================================= Contacts * Mark Van Den Borre <mark(a)markvdb.be> (Openstandaarden.be) (Langs: NL/FR) +32 486 961726 * Benjamin Henrion <bh(a)udev.org> (AEL.be) (Langs:FR/EN) +32 498 292771 ================================================================= Supporters This campaign is supported by several associations listed here: http://wiki.noepatents.eu.org/index.php/All_Supporters ================================================================= About AEL The Association Electronique Libre is a Belgian association protecting fundamental rights in the information society. AEL supports freedoms of speech, press and association on the Internet or any electronic medium, the right to use encryption software for private communication, the right to create software unimpeded by private monopolies, the right to access and preserve public domain and free digital information. About Openstandaarden OpenStandaarden.be's mission is to promote the use of open standards in all digital communication. Our approach consists of building a constructive dialog with IT staff and decision makers. We want to create awareness about the importance of open standards, and convince them to effectively apply them. We are a group of independent volunteers, committed to offer our expertise in order to realise these goals. ================================================================= About this Press Release EN: http://wiki.noepatents.eu.org/index.php/Press_ReleasesEn FR: http://wiki.noepatents.eu.org/index.php/Press_ReleasesFr NL: http://wiki.noepatents.eu.org/index.php/Press_ReleasesNl DE: http://wiki.noepatents.eu.org/index.php/Press_ReleasesDe =================================================================

21 years

[Fwd: Roberto Di Cosmo]

by Serge Marelli (LiLux)

Salut, Je fais suivre, intéressant... Serge > Tiens, je découvre tardivement ce texte de Roberto Di Cosmo (celui de > Piège dans le cyberespace) sur le traité constitutionnel : > > http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~dicosmo/Opinions/ConstitutionEuropeenne.html > > L'exemple illustrant ses propos est celui des brevets logiciels.

21 years

AlphaServer

by Eric Dondelinger

Hi all, I can offer a few AlphaServer machines for whomever'll take them: 1x AlphaServer 1000A 2x AlphaServer 2100A Those machines come with single Alpha CPUs, somewhere between 233 and 300MHz, and an unknown amount of RAM (nowhere near maximum capacity - which would be 1 resp 2 GB - for sure). The 1000A comes without internal disk drive, the 2100As have an internal disk of 2GB. All b0xen have one or more network interfaces and SCSI. Additional diskspace can be had in the form of one or more disk bays, each being able to hold 6-7 drives, with most drives being 1 or 2 GB (a very few have 4GB), to be connected via SCSI. One such AS2100A was presented during LinuxDays2005, for those who've seen it. These machines are *servers*, i.e. noisy, large (19"), will use lots of electricity and replace your heater, but they are also very fun to play with (ex. the SRM is to a PC BIOS what a Ferrari is to a Trabbi, one of the very first 64bit architectures, etc.). Of course, you may run Linux or some BSD on these machines, the AS2100As were even installed with Debian GNU/Linux already. So, this is definitely not for those who want/need extreme high-end CPU power (these machines are too old for that - they were high-end back in their time), but more for collectors and tinkerers. So if someone's seriously interested, let me know. FCFS applies. Greets Eric P.S. Preferrably those who'll get them should pick them up by car @Kirchberg, hauling them alone is somewhere between "not much fun" and "impossible" ;-)

21 years, 1 month

[Fwd: [Fsfe-france] vente liée matériels /logiciels]

by Serge Marelli

Pour info, situation en France sur la vente liée de produits MSFT avec tout nouvel ordinateur... -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Vincent Charley <charley_vincent(a)yahoo.fr> To: fsfe-france(a)gnu.org Subject: [Fsfe-france] vente liée matériels /logiciels Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:07:22 +0200 bonjour Suite à deux questions ministérielles, une réponse a été apportée concernant l'achat de PC contenant un logiciel préinstallé. Le ministre saisi semble se diriger vers la qualification de "vente liée" qui est en principe interdite sauf à ce que "la pratique commerciale soit considérée comme un intéret pour le consommateur".. je vous laisse apprécier la teneur de cette exception. Selon le ministre en charge de la consommation, cet intérêt n'est plus avéré, en matière informatique. Le ministre se prononce donc d'une part pour la possibilité de rembourser le montant des droits d'acquisition des licences.les vendeurs devraient aussi adapter leurs offres commerciales afin de proposer des PC nus. Si ces infractions sont constatés par les juges => 1500euros d'amende par infraction constatée. Reste que les réponses apportées ne lient pas l'autorité judiciaire... Affaire à suivre pr plus d'infos: http://www.foruminternet.org/actualites/lire.phtml?id=886 réponses ministérielles: http://www.foruminternet.org/documents/rapports_avis/lire.phtml?id=885 http://www.foruminternet.org/documents/rapports_avis/lire.phtml?id=887 V. Charley http://vincemdk.free.fr _______________________________________________ Liste de discussion FSF France. http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-france -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Data processing is not a field of technology in the sense of patent law, and innovations in data processing are not inventions in the sense of patent law." (European Parliament 24-sep-2003) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Serge Marelli, Luxembourg E-mail : serge.marelli(a)linux.lu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LiLux - http://www.lilux.lu/ Defending Innovation against Patent Inflation http://swpat.ffii.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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